It depends if they are able to create big enough community around them, get their friends to join. The idea of Jaiku is good, but the fact is that users seem to be around 20-30 years, so that's why I think this would be the service for most youngest ones. They enjoy the irc-gallery (I think) and my university friends like mostly Facebook. The most nerdiest friends then use Jaiku also :)
@matnel: I don't see a reason why Jaiku couldn't work for kids. They'd use this differently than the "Finnish jaikuspehere" we belong and are socialized to. If they don't have an attitude towards Jaiku as being old geezers' platform yet, it could easily happen. :)
My most nerdiest friends won't touch Jaiku or Facebook with a eleven feet pole. They are IRC-users and some still fight the endless marathon debates at Usenet groups. My university friends are divided in half: the science students are ircers and the political sciences' faculty folks are using MS Messenger, Skype and Facebook. All use mailing lists.
@Suviko: yeah, the technology and concept works, so the question is if they are able to create the community here.
Fact still lays, that social software is highly fragmented on different users (I think I have papers of this in my mailbox if needed) due to this differences on community building. I haven't tried Orkut, but hear that it's used in the Latin America - and not so much on other places. I don't use Twitter (I have an account thought) but I think it's more used in North America. Same goes with LikedIn, bebo, facebook, irc-gallery, ...
Does anyone have research results on the mobile phones used by teens? As the mobile phones sphere is the thin which makes this a bit different than other services. Not much tought, Iäm writing on a laptop here.
@matnel: "Does anyone have research results on the mobile phones used by teens?" You mean what brands and models or how they are using mobile phones, or are there teens using Jaikua via mobile phones?
First about the platform, can they even use the service on their mobile phone. Next around their phone usage, where they use their phone. And form that we can start speaking of Jaiku as an service
@matnel: There's a large Finnish mobile phone manufacturer, who have a huge user & marketing research department, or several. You could contact them and ask? :)
It would be interesting to know how many teenagers in Finland and other countries have flat fee data plans with their mobile subscription. Jaiku seems to be directed to mobiles and more 20-30 year olds have company phones. With all the "mokkulas" coming to the market things might be different in a year or two.
@hrry: my use of (corporate) phone changed after getting a fixed data plan. nowaydays e.g. elisa provides rather cheap plans, so if a teenager would want this service - most likely it would be given and paid by parents
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Any words of wisdom to share already? ;)
Are your kids using Jaiku btw? Should be interesting for them...
1 year, 10 months ago by hrry
@hrry: I think the age segment of Jaiku is a bit different, and that is a good thing.
Meaning of life, isn't it... about 42 :)
1 year, 10 months ago by matnel
@matnel: Shouldn't Jaiku be appealing to teenagers as well? Or is this for people in their thirties?
Maybe Matthew doesn't want to use Jaiku with his kids but they could use this with their friends.
1 year, 10 months ago by hrry
@hrry: One size doesn't fit for all.
It depends if they are able to create big enough community around them, get their friends to join. The idea of Jaiku is good, but the fact is that users seem to be around 20-30 years, so that's why I think this would be the service for most youngest ones. They enjoy the irc-gallery (I think) and my university friends like mostly Facebook. The most nerdiest friends then use Jaiku also :)
1 year, 10 months ago by matnel
@matnel: I don't see a reason why Jaiku couldn't work for kids. They'd use this differently than the "Finnish jaikuspehere" we belong and are socialized to. If they don't have an attitude towards Jaiku as being old geezers' platform yet, it could easily happen. :)
My most nerdiest friends won't touch Jaiku or Facebook with a eleven feet pole. They are IRC-users and some still fight the endless marathon debates at Usenet groups. My university friends are divided in half: the science students are ircers and the political sciences' faculty folks are using MS Messenger, Skype and Facebook. All use mailing lists.
1 year, 10 months ago by Suviko
@Suviko: yeah, the technology and concept works, so the question is if they are able to create the community here.
Fact still lays, that social software is highly fragmented on different users (I think I have papers of this in my mailbox if needed) due to this differences on community building. I haven't tried Orkut, but hear that it's used in the Latin America - and not so much on other places. I don't use Twitter (I have an account thought) but I think it's more used in North America. Same goes with LikedIn, bebo, facebook, irc-gallery, ...
Does anyone have research results on the mobile phones used by teens? As the mobile phones sphere is the thin which makes this a bit different than other services. Not much tought, Iäm writing on a laptop here.
1 year, 10 months ago by matnel
@matnel: "Does anyone have research results on the mobile phones used by teens?" You mean what brands and models or how they are using mobile phones, or are there teens using Jaikua via mobile phones?
1 year, 10 months ago by Suviko
First about the platform, can they even use the service on their mobile phone. Next around their phone usage, where they use their phone. And form that we can start speaking of Jaiku as an service
1 year, 10 months ago by matnel
@matnel: There's a large Finnish mobile phone manufacturer, who have a huge user & marketing research department, or several. You could contact them and ask? :)
1 year, 10 months ago by Suviko
But the research I got there... Most likely I can't share it with this Jaiku.
1 year, 10 months ago by matnel
It would be interesting to know how many teenagers in Finland and other countries have flat fee data plans with their mobile subscription. Jaiku seems to be directed to mobiles and more 20-30 year olds have company phones. With all the "mokkulas" coming to the market things might be different in a year or two.
1 year, 10 months ago by hrry
@hrry: my use of (corporate) phone changed after getting a fixed data plan. nowaydays e.g. elisa provides rather cheap plans, so if a teenager would want this service - most likely it would be given and paid by parents
1 year, 10 months ago by matnel
It is operators who know about the flat fee plans of the teenagers. Maybe Elisa could help?
1 year, 10 months ago by nieminensundell